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66 SMT007 MAGAZINE I DECEMBER 2018 Feinberg: I do remember that. Hickman: Regarding the size of the booths or hospitality, people stayed pretty much in line. Feinberg: And then a couple of years later, the equipment suppliers came up with their own show, and that's where we got APEX. I think it was the combination of the EXPO and APEX that really made it the dominant show in the United States. Interestingly, though, the market share in the U.S. for manufacturing was so big then, so that was what made the trade show big here too. Hickman: Yeah. That slowly disappeared, didn't it? Feinberg: It did. I hope it comes back and that the next generation can start to bring some of this stuff back too. Is there anything else that you recall about that first show? Hickman: Let me look at my notes. The only comment that I have, and I don't remember the numbers, was that when this first show was over, somebody—maybe it was you— from the committee went back to the IPC board with the profit—the money that we were giving back. I don't remember what that was, but there was a fair amount of cash that came back to IPC after the first show and the second show was even higher. I don't remember the dollar amount, but that's what I do remember. Feinberg: That was me, and it was significant, but I don't remember the exact amount. Then, the decision was that Boston was prob- ably not the best place to do it, so we went to the San Jose area and then down to Anaheim. Anaheim wasn't very friendly to us because they wanted the big hospitality suites. Hickman: I remember that. Didn't we go to Vegas one year? And it didn't turn out to be very good. Feinberg: The first Vegas one didn't, then some of them did, but the costs in Vegas was start- ing to get too high. Now we're in San Diego, but the cost isn't exactly low either. But, you know, things are different now. Hickman: Is that where the venue is now? San Diego? Feinberg: That's right because you haven't involved now for a number of years—five or six years, right? Hickman: Hey, I retired at the end of '98. Would you believe it's been 20 years? Feinberg: My goodness, Jim. Hickman: It's incredible. SMT007

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