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80 DESIGN007 MAGAZINE I DECEMBER 2018 Interview by Barry Matties and Andy Shaughnessy I-CONNECT007 Veteran PCB technologists Jim Howard and Greg Lucas have made an interesting discov- ery: Certain shapes of copper planes make a PCB run more efficiently than other shapes, a process they dubbed fractal design. It doesn't appear to cost a penny more, and testing sug- gests that fractal design techniques could elim- inate edge noise. Barry Matties and Andy Shaughnessy asked Jim and Greg to discuss the fractal design pro- cess, as well as some of the advantages of using this technique on your next PCB design. Barry Matties: Gentlemen, tell us how you all got started with fractals and fractal design. Jim Howard: Greg and I were in the midst of developing a technology known as buried capacitance, and we had a number of tests that we needed to run on PCBs to determine exactly what the effects of having this very thin distributed capacitance within the board would accomplish. We discovered some effects that really didn't gel with what we were doing at that time, but they were of interest. A few years later, we went back and thought, "These things could be useful," because we discovered that certain shapes on the copper planes of the PCBs—which, at that time, were only dictated by anti-pads and various cuts and things in the copper—either increased or decreased its ability to operate efficiently as a power/ground plane. We didn't know precisely what that effect was. Then, I spent a few years working for a Chi- nese company developing some technology for them, and they wanted to see if this was something that I could work on in the future. I found we could create an effect with a spe- cific shape of putting anti-pads, cuts, and other things where we wanted to, but the problem was that no designer was ever going to let you do that. That's an impossible scenario. So, I discarded that for a moment, and after I left that company as their technical director, I started to think about this particular problem again. I thought, "What related fields can I get information from?" because as an engineer, I can never be too proud to beg. I started inves- tigating unusual bits of science, came across fractals, and immediately recognized the frac- tals exemplified the patterns we had been cre- ating in their simplest form. The thing I was looking at, at the time, was a Cantor set, which is one of the very early fractal forms. I researched that, talked to Greg about it, and he thought about it for a while. Then, we realized, "Hey, there's a reason to pursue this." We initially pursued it from the point of view of something very simple that we could ini- tially find a reason for: If we could etch this around the outside of a PCB, perhaps we could A Fractal Conversation with Jim Howard and Greg Lucas Jim Howard Greg Lucas