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REAL TIME WITH... IPC APEX EXPO 2022 SHOW & TELL MAGAZINE I I-CONNECT007 81 know what's going on. Now, I was very fortu- nate. Do you remember Susan Mansilla? Goldman: Yes I do, a great friend. Pauls: Very much a giant of the industry as well. She was one of my coworkers. She took me under her wing. I guess what I would say is for anyone coming in new, if they don't have someone like that, find someone. e IPC staff is very, very good. If you come up to an IPC staff member, and you said, "I'm new to this. is is my first IPC meeting. In my company, I'm responsible for electronics cleaning. What should I be going with?" First, we've got this guy over here, Doug Pauls. Follow him around. Ask for a mentor, a guide. Generally speaking, I think one will be provided, but don't be afraid to ask a question. Goldman: Good advice. Now, part of this award is a scholarship to the university or the college of your choice. Have you made a selection? Pauls: Oh, I have. It was pretty easy for me. My choice will be the Materials Science and Engi- neering Department at Iowa State University. Now, I'm not an Iowa State University gradu- ate at all, but I have had the great fortune of working with that department over the last 21 years while I've been at Collins. You and I have talked in the past about our most excellent co-op students. We have young material scientists and engineers oentimes, well, late sophomores, juniors, seniors. Prob- ably 95% of them are materials engineers, who then come and spend eight months with us, a semester and a summer. We have worked very, very hard to make that a fantastic experience for them. I think I have learned as much from those students as they have learned from me. When I thought of a department that would be deserving of this, the Material Science and Engineering program that has provided so many of these wonderful co-ops for us imme- diately came to my mind. Voices of the Show: Nilesh Naik, Sava Holdings, Ltd. Interview by Andy Shaughnessy Andy Shaughnessy caught up with Nilesh Naik, a longtime IPC board mem- ber, and asked him how he he felt about being back in San Diego. Nilesh, like so many others, couldn't have been happier. Andy Shaughnessy: I'm here today with Nilesh Naik. What brings you to IPC APEX EXPO? Nilesh Naik: Actually, I'm grateful that there's an actual show, an in-person show. I am delighted to be here. I definitely missed it last year. I don't think I've missed an IPC show since its inception. I just wanted to be back, be amongst industry mem- bers and leaders, and just understand where we're going with everything. I'm excited to be back. I'm delighted at the turnout as there are a good number of people here. Unless you come here, you don't understand what's going on. You have to be that learner and be willing to figure out what's going on. That's exactly why I'm here. Shaughnessy: I'm just really glad to see that so many exhibitors brought their machinery. Naik: Yes, absolutely. Not only that, but they brought good, interesting machinery. I have a little bias more to the board side, but again, it's just good to see a lot of board shop guys rather than just equipment for the PWB industry. There is some exciting stuff and some interesting technologies. Shaughnessy: All right. Well, it's good to see you again. Naik: Absolutely.

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