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56 I-CONNECT007 I REAL TIME WITH... IPC APEX EXPO 2022 SHOW & TELL MAGAZINE there's a UPS truck pulling out of a driveway or a huge pothole, those are things not yet in its database. Any Tesla owner will tell you, there are times when you have to grab the wheel and take over, and Tesla says as much, like this is not for you to go to sleep. is is a driver assis- tance thing, but you must still be alert. I oen wonder, if I hadn't grabbed the wheel and taken over, let's say I grabbed two seconds before impact, would it have taken over one second before impact? I'll never know. at's in a parallel universe. It's really tough that we allow soware to make all kinds of decisions for us all day long. Matties: But these are fatal choices. Pogue: But these are fatal. Right. ese are fatal ones. Matties: I love dogs... Pogue: at's right. Yes. e old trolley prob- lem brought to life. I mean, would you want to have to make that decision as a human anyway, though? Matties: You're forced to make it. And you're going to base that on your values. But when you step into an auton- omous car, you've sur- rendered all your val- ues to somebody else's values. Pogue: Right. Matties: And as your keynote further talked about, change is scary. e unknown is scary. But maybe, obviously, it's incremental to the degree of change and the risk/reward that's associated with it. But maybe the risk of handing over your values is what's the greatest roadblock for this to hap- pen. Pogue: I wonder what Elon Musk would say to that question. I would guess that he would say, that's not how to frame the question. e question is, how do we prevent the car from ever hitting anything alive? And that seems like an easier programming job. Such as, it's always better to hit something inanimate than some- thing animated, something like that. But I have to say, they have tens of millions of cars on the road, driving billions of miles a year. And to my knowledge, they've only ever hit one person. Matties: By choice? Pogue: It was that strange situation a couple years ago, at night. It doesn't seem like a huge problem compared with the problem of human beings hitting other human beings. Matties: Right. I get that. But I think these are some of the hurdles that people are going to