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REAL TIME WITH... IPC APEX EXPO 2024 SHOW & TELL MAGAZINE I I-CONNECT007 39 that big of a difference between art and engineering. Nguyen: You were a sculptor for Walt Disney Imagineering early in your career. Walk us through your career, and how your journey unfolded. Bailey: I guess I really started out as a frontline artist; I was an illustrator and a sculptor. When I was an apprentice working on Star Trek, I was drawing pictures of aliens and then sculpting the aliens. That was my full-time gig. I was pri- marily known in the movie industry as a sculp- tor, though not as much as a makeup artist. Through the Disney years, I found my way into more creative technology. I have a technol- ogy gene, if you will. I got away from doing the frontline art over my time there. But over the past 10 years, I've swung back in that direction. Now I think of it as mixed media. Sometimes I'm drawing with a pencil, and sometimes I'm drawing with a mouse. Sometimes I'm sculpt- ing an object, and sometimes I'm building an electronic something or other that moves and works and whatnot. It's all very fluid to me. I don't distinguish between those pieces. Nguyen: What advice would you give to your younger self? Bailey: Boy, that's a great question. I think we all have periods of self-doubt; we all go through identity crises. I think there was a long time in my life where I thought I had to be something else. I have three sides of my personality: the art, the technology, and the business. I thought I needed to focus more on income and lean more into the business side of things but, in the process, I had forgot- ten about the other pieces. My advice to my younger self would be to just focus on things that make you happy, where you bring hap- piness to other folks. It's like that Fred Rogers quote, "Look for the helpers." Be the helper. That's the advice I would give myself. Forget about the money, because the money will come. Barry Matties: Paul, how did you develop your leadership skills? Bailey: I've made every possible mistake that you could make. If you're an entrepreneur and a business owner, you're constantly fail-